SU: A lot of the work that I’ve seen of yours is sculptural. And the craftsmanship is kind of awe inspiring to see, you have all these seamless joins. With the ball itself, it says, Who got next?
RE: ...at Recology...I found one basketball, I found another one, grabbed it and another one, and... I started thinking, how can I make these pieces work into this theme of gentrification and diaspora. And I started thinking of this situation that happened in Garfield Park in the Mission. There’s this regular soccer game that’s played by locals there, and just like any other playground...if you wanna get in on the game, you say I got next, or who got next? You wait with your team and you wait for the game to come in. Except this one particular occasion, a local startup came in and said they had a permit and the locals had to get off the field, and it's like...who does that? … You don’t show up with a permit. You get your boys together and you wait. And you play as long as you can, you win as many games as you can, and when you lose, you go back to the end of the queue and you wait again, or you go home. I remember I was talking with some friends later that same day, we were at the gym, that was our same reaction, like who does that? Have you lost your mind? ....it’s also a reflection on who's’ got next in this neighborhood. Who’s gonna be taking what from whom in this neighborhood. It’s also that question.
SU: It could refer to so many things, but it’s nice that it also refers to something that is pretty funny. Because it’s true, just take your chances, Get in the queue. And if the kids beat you, then get better.
RE: And what better way if you’re an outsider to join a new community. I moved around a lot as a kid, because my father was in the Air Force and the playground was always the great unifier. ... I don’t see how that’s still not applicable even when you're an adult.
SU: It makes sense: if you want to be part of the community, be part of it.
RE: Yeah learn to play the game, learn the rituals.